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		<title>By: lew</title>
		<link>http://kenklaser.gaiastream.com/2007/12/28/ceiling-fan-capacitor-solutions/comment-page-1/#comment-22715</link>
		<dc:creator>lew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;does anyone know where to purchase two capacitors for a ceiling fan?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;two wire 250 V 5uF
four wire 250 V 5uF / 5uF&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;thanks&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does anyone know where to purchase two capacitors for a ceiling fan?</p>

<p>two wire 250 V 5uF
four wire 250 V 5uF / 5uF</p>

<p>thanks</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ken L. Klaser</title>
		<link>http://kenklaser.gaiastream.com/2007/12/28/ceiling-fan-capacitor-solutions/comment-page-1/#comment-21032</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken L. Klaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 18:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Bob! I&#039;m glad it helped you.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Little of what I did above would have been possible without Ray Franco&#039;s generous work on the schematics, whose website I&#039;ve linked to numerous times above.  Thus, I in turn must give him thanks!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Bob! I&#8217;m glad it helped you.</p>

<p>Little of what I did above would have been possible without Ray Franco&#8217;s generous work on the schematics, whose website I&#8217;ve linked to numerous times above.  Thus, I in turn must give him thanks!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Bob Black</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 20:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks so much Ken for publishing this incredible research. My new fan quit working on hi speed (ran the same speed as med) after a city wide power failure. I have a 5 wire capacitor in the fan just like the one you had. Thanks to your research and instruction I determined that the capacitor between the gray and red wire was faulty. So I just added a 2-wire capacitor between gray and red wire, left the 5-wire intact, cut and capped the red lead out of the 5-wire one and it works perfectly. Thanks again for this really great post.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much Ken for publishing this incredible research. My new fan quit working on hi speed (ran the same speed as med) after a city wide power failure. I have a 5 wire capacitor in the fan just like the one you had. Thanks to your research and instruction I determined that the capacitor between the gray and red wire was faulty. So I just added a 2-wire capacitor between gray and red wire, left the 5-wire intact, cut and capped the red lead out of the 5-wire one and it works perfectly. Thanks again for this really great post.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ken L. Klaser</title>
		<link>http://kenklaser.gaiastream.com/2007/12/28/ceiling-fan-capacitor-solutions/comment-page-1/#comment-20159</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken L. Klaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 00:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Laurie, my fan used a DPDT reverse switch, and yours may or may not be the same. You can probably obtain an exact replacement switch from a ceiling fan store, although a basic DPDT switch of an appropriate current rating can probably also be obtained at either an electronics supply or perhaps even a good hardware store.  An appropriate current rating would be at least the same rating of the broken reverse switch, or better.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If it was my fan, I&#039;d just replace the switch, and made sure I wired it the same way the old one was wired.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If I didn&#039;t mind the fan running in one direction only, either blowing up or down, then I could bypass the switch by hardwiring it.  The only way to reverse the fan direction would then be to rewire the bypass once again.  One of &lt;a href=&quot;http://kenklaser.gaiastream.com/2007/12/28/ceiling-fan-capacitor-solutions/comment-page-1/#comment-4980&quot;&gt;my comments above&lt;/a&gt; has some links to several DPDT switch schematics, which, coupled with an examination of a disassembled switch to understand how the contacts slide, should help you.  Several other folks also made relevant comments.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;One of the problems with these fans appears to be getting your hands on an accurate schematic.  The several schematics I found, each of which is somewhat different, may or may not be accurate for your fan, that is something that only you can judge.  So, there&#039;s a certain amount of guesswork involved, short of tracing each wire on a bench and drawing your own schematic.  There&#039;s the additional difficulty that the schematics are idealized or simplified versus how the wires and parts appear in the fan itself.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Because of that, I could not give you precise instructions.  Wire colors may be different, etc.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Additionally, there are the unknowns regarding what your parents&#039; friend did when she or he put it back together without the switch.  If s/he didn&#039;t try to bypass the switch, then that would be why the fan doesn&#039;t work, as the electrical current going to one set of motor coils flows through it. You noted this when you wrote, &quot;&lt;em&gt;it would work its way into the neutral or middle position. When it did this, the fan would cut off.&lt;/em&gt;&quot;  However, if your parents&#039; friend did try to bypass it, then perhaps he or she miswired it, and the question arises of whether any damage was done as a result of turning on the power.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Presumably this creates a problem for you, as you may no longer know what wire went on which terminal of the old reverse switch.  If you study the wiring diagrams and the reverse switch diagrams over the course of several days, with sleep cycles in between, you can probably devise some method of back-tracing the wires and finding their correct positions on a replaced reverse switch.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On the other hand, if you study the fan and switch schematics for a few days, and just feel lost and not sure what to do, it&#039;s probably best to entrust the work to someone more familiar with such repairs.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Good Luck!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Laurie, my fan used a DPDT reverse switch, and yours may or may not be the same. You can probably obtain an exact replacement switch from a ceiling fan store, although a basic DPDT switch of an appropriate current rating can probably also be obtained at either an electronics supply or perhaps even a good hardware store.  An appropriate current rating would be at least the same rating of the broken reverse switch, or better.</p>

<p>If it was my fan, I&#8217;d just replace the switch, and made sure I wired it the same way the old one was wired.</p>

<p>If I didn&#8217;t mind the fan running in one direction only, either blowing up or down, then I could bypass the switch by hardwiring it.  The only way to reverse the fan direction would then be to rewire the bypass once again.  One of <a href="http://kenklaser.gaiastream.com/2007/12/28/ceiling-fan-capacitor-solutions/comment-page-1/#comment-4980">my comments above</a> has some links to several DPDT switch schematics, which, coupled with an examination of a disassembled switch to understand how the contacts slide, should help you.  Several other folks also made relevant comments.</p>

<p>One of the problems with these fans appears to be getting your hands on an accurate schematic.  The several schematics I found, each of which is somewhat different, may or may not be accurate for your fan, that is something that only you can judge.  So, there&#8217;s a certain amount of guesswork involved, short of tracing each wire on a bench and drawing your own schematic.  There&#8217;s the additional difficulty that the schematics are idealized or simplified versus how the wires and parts appear in the fan itself.</p>

<p>Because of that, I could not give you precise instructions.  Wire colors may be different, etc.</p>

<p>Additionally, there are the unknowns regarding what your parents&#8217; friend did when she or he put it back together without the switch.  If s/he didn&#8217;t try to bypass the switch, then that would be why the fan doesn&#8217;t work, as the electrical current going to one set of motor coils flows through it. You noted this when you wrote, &#8220;<em>it would work its way into the neutral or middle position. When it did this, the fan would cut off.</em>&#8221;  However, if your parents&#8217; friend did try to bypass it, then perhaps he or she miswired it, and the question arises of whether any damage was done as a result of turning on the power.</p>

<p>Presumably this creates a problem for you, as you may no longer know what wire went on which terminal of the old reverse switch.  If you study the wiring diagrams and the reverse switch diagrams over the course of several days, with sleep cycles in between, you can probably devise some method of back-tracing the wires and finding their correct positions on a replaced reverse switch.</p>

<p>On the other hand, if you study the fan and switch schematics for a few days, and just feel lost and not sure what to do, it&#8217;s probably best to entrust the work to someone more familiar with such repairs.</p>

<p>Good Luck!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 22:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hello,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have read through all of your interesting data....and I do understand it a little.  Maybe you can help me with the problem I am having with my elderly parent&#039;s ceiling fan.  I would appreciate any help...and detailed explanations on how to fix it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Here is the problem:  The reverse switch (black switch on the fan that is either pushed up or down), was evidentally jarred loose or something and it would work its way into the neutral or middle position.  When it did this, the fan would cut off.  A friend of my parents had the bright idea of taking out the screws, exposing the part where the wires are...and when they did, the reverse switch broke to pieces.  I wasn&#039;t there when this happened, but this person put everything back (except the broken switch) and now the fan doesn&#039;t work.  The lights on the fan work fine, but the fan itself will not turn.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My questions:  Is there a way to bypass the reverse switch wires so that the fan will work again?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If so, can someone give me a detailed explanation of what wires need to be disconnected or cut, and where and if they need to be spliced to other wires in the fan?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am very good at following instructions, and am savvy about turning off electricity at the electrical box, etc.  Any help is appreciated!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If I need to take pictures of the wiring and post it here, I can do that as well.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thank you!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Laurie&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>

<p>I have read through all of your interesting data&#8230;.and I do understand it a little.  Maybe you can help me with the problem I am having with my elderly parent&#8217;s ceiling fan.  I would appreciate any help&#8230;and detailed explanations on how to fix it.</p>

<p>Here is the problem:  The reverse switch (black switch on the fan that is either pushed up or down), was evidentally jarred loose or something and it would work its way into the neutral or middle position.  When it did this, the fan would cut off.  A friend of my parents had the bright idea of taking out the screws, exposing the part where the wires are&#8230;and when they did, the reverse switch broke to pieces.  I wasn&#8217;t there when this happened, but this person put everything back (except the broken switch) and now the fan doesn&#8217;t work.  The lights on the fan work fine, but the fan itself will not turn.</p>

<p>My questions:  Is there a way to bypass the reverse switch wires so that the fan will work again?</p>

<p>If so, can someone give me a detailed explanation of what wires need to be disconnected or cut, and where and if they need to be spliced to other wires in the fan?</p>

<p>I am very good at following instructions, and am savvy about turning off electricity at the electrical box, etc.  Any help is appreciated!</p>

<p>If I need to take pictures of the wiring and post it here, I can do that as well.</p>

<p>Thank you!</p>

<p>Laurie</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 16:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sounds like a lot of work for a ceiling fan but I guess if you have the know how.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a lot of work for a ceiling fan but I guess if you have the know how.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Salem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 11:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hello Ken been reading ur article. makes me motivated to repair my own ceiling fan rather that call a technician to do it. It cost me up to 100 singapore dollars just to replace 3 capacitors. but now i have a problem, how do u connect the wires to a capacitor even the capacitor does not have its own wire? 
The capacitor i just bought has this metal edge protruding out. What do you suggest? A crocodile clip? or is there any better ways to connect? PLs advised. Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Ken been reading ur article. makes me motivated to repair my own ceiling fan rather that call a technician to do it. It cost me up to 100 singapore dollars just to replace 3 capacitors. but now i have a problem, how do u connect the wires to a capacitor even the capacitor does not have its own wire? 
The capacitor i just bought has this metal edge protruding out. What do you suggest? A crocodile clip? or is there any better ways to connect? PLs advised. Thanks.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ken L. Klaser</title>
		<link>http://kenklaser.gaiastream.com/2007/12/28/ceiling-fan-capacitor-solutions/comment-page-1/#comment-19786</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken L. Klaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 16:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;First link in the article, a link to the prior article, that article has a few suppliers listed.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First link in the article, a link to the prior article, that article has a few suppliers listed.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 16:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am very appreciative of the wealth of infomation researched and provided by the CJ. So, it is only to assist CJ in it&#039;s effort to improve this page that I offer this observation.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When my ceilng fan went out, my fist suspicion was the 3-speed switch, but after dismounting the light kit it was obvious the the capacitor was blown (thanks for your photos).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now my only interest is finding a replacement capacitor (not really how one works) and from where. So, the reason I got to this site was the hope of finding a supplier as well as how to install it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Just the same, thanks again CJ for this valuable information. Gotta find a capacitor now!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very appreciative of the wealth of infomation researched and provided by the CJ. So, it is only to assist CJ in it&#8217;s effort to improve this page that I offer this observation.</p>

<p>When my ceilng fan went out, my fist suspicion was the 3-speed switch, but after dismounting the light kit it was obvious the the capacitor was blown (thanks for your photos).</p>

<p>Now my only interest is finding a replacement capacitor (not really how one works) and from where. So, the reason I got to this site was the hope of finding a supplier as well as how to install it.</p>

<p>Just the same, thanks again CJ for this valuable information. Gotta find a capacitor now!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rob - South Africa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob - South Africa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 13:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for very informative website&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I had problems with capacitors not lasting and expensive to replace.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nowdays I run two wires through centre piping and mount microwave oven capacitors on top of motor either series or paralel depending on what values you need.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Microwave caps are more or less [2000 working voltage] and therefore outlasts the motor.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It does look a bit awkward when you know they are mounted there, but hey, who looks up to your ceiling fan.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for very informative website</p>

<p>I had problems with capacitors not lasting and expensive to replace.</p>

<p>Nowdays I run two wires through centre piping and mount microwave oven capacitors on top of motor either series or paralel depending on what values you need.</p>

<p>Microwave caps are more or less [2000 working voltage] and therefore outlasts the motor.</p>

<p>It does look a bit awkward when you know they are mounted there, but hey, who looks up to your ceiling fan.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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