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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 22:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I had a power surge and the fan stopped working.  Confirmed power at the switch and started trouble shooting at the base of the fan, where most of the wires and light fixture would be...  I just happened to remove the motor starting capacitor (I know this now and not when I removed it :-()&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Any case, removed the capacitor and fan worked, abit slow starting, but worked.  It worked for a few hours and now nothing, again.  Next day, got a replacement capacitor and tried replacing it, nothing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Problem, I not sure of which wires to confirm power at the fan.  There are some gray, brown and orange wires and the capacitor connected wires of white and red.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Suggestions?  Did I blow some other wires not visible?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a power surge and the fan stopped working.  Confirmed power at the switch and started trouble shooting at the base of the fan, where most of the wires and light fixture would be&#8230;  I just happened to remove the motor starting capacitor (I know this now and not when I removed it :-()</p>

<p>Any case, removed the capacitor and fan worked, abit slow starting, but worked.  It worked for a few hours and now nothing, again.  Next day, got a replacement capacitor and tried replacing it, nothing.</p>

<p>Problem, I not sure of which wires to confirm power at the fan.  There are some gray, brown and orange wires and the capacitor connected wires of white and red.</p>

<p>Suggestions?  Did I blow some other wires not visible?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Durga Prasad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Durga Prasad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 14:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dear sir,
        My fan is not working properly.
I think it is due to condenser can i use double condenser in a fan.
please  sir give me the suggestion.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear sir,
        My fan is not working properly.
I think it is due to condenser can i use double condenser in a fan.
please  sir give me the suggestion.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ken L. Klaser</title>
		<link>http://kenklaser.gaiastream.com/2007/12/17/ceiling-fan-capacitor-woes/comment-page-1/#comment-27871</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken L. Klaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2011 23:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I received the following email from an old Hunter fan owner, he asked me to share it, as I had the comments and interactivity closed blog wide.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Just to let you know what the problem was, since you are able to
help so many people, it was the oil and bearing. I replaced the capacitor,
no difference, and the reverse still didn&#039;t work. So I took it down, and
while trying to manipulate the heavy as a rock fan, noticed that oil did not
spill out when I expected it to. Also, with no blades, it did not turn
freely.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bottom line taking it to a service center, $101 later, new bearing,
new oil, new rubber grommet, and basically a new $350 fan, which you can&#039;t
buy now anyway. The reason I had no low speed was friction, and the reverse
was a wire disconnected. I have read that some say the oil should be checked
each year, and others say it never needs it. All I can say is mine
apparently did.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Please pass this on to people that might have a similar problem.
Timing how long the blades take to stop when going from low to stop would be
a good way to see a bearing problem. With the blades on the weight of them
makes it seem like everything it good. However, with them off, I could tell
it wasn&#039;t turning freely. And now with everything replaced, it takes a
minute or two to stop from low.
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your help.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I received the following email from an old Hunter fan owner, he asked me to share it, as I had the comments and interactivity closed blog wide.</p>

<blockquote><p>Just to let you know what the problem was, since you are able to
help so many people, it was the oil and bearing. I replaced the capacitor,
no difference, and the reverse still didn&#8217;t work. So I took it down, and
while trying to manipulate the heavy as a rock fan, noticed that oil did not
spill out when I expected it to. Also, with no blades, it did not turn
freely.</p>
<p>Bottom line taking it to a service center, $101 later, new bearing,
new oil, new rubber grommet, and basically a new $350 fan, which you can&#8217;t
buy now anyway. The reason I had no low speed was friction, and the reverse
was a wire disconnected. I have read that some say the oil should be checked
each year, and others say it never needs it. All I can say is mine
apparently did.</p>
<p>Please pass this on to people that might have a similar problem.
Timing how long the blades take to stop when going from low to stop would be
a good way to see a bearing problem. With the blades on the weight of them
makes it seem like everything it good. However, with them off, I could tell
it wasn&#8217;t turning freely. And now with everything replaced, it takes a
minute or two to stop from low.
</p><p>Thanks for your help.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken L. Klaser</title>
		<link>http://kenklaser.gaiastream.com/2007/12/17/ceiling-fan-capacitor-woes/comment-page-1/#comment-26042</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken L. Klaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 20:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The only schematics I&#039;m familiar with are the ones at electrical-forensics.com (linked in the above article next to a &quot;1.&quot;).  There&#039;s one two capacitor and one three capacitor schematic.  The last post on my next article links to a blog where a unique wiring solution was conceived.  Maybe you can figure something out that works for your fan with a little bit of study.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only schematics I&#8217;m familiar with are the ones at electrical-forensics.com (linked in the above article next to a &#8220;1.&#8221;).  There&#8217;s one two capacitor and one three capacitor schematic.  The last post on my next article links to a blog where a unique wiring solution was conceived.  Maybe you can figure something out that works for your fan with a little bit of study.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 17:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Have a Quorum high end fan that blew up its controls. No longer made or supported by Quorum. Has no pullchain; totally controlled by its wall switch.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Any clue what its ckt diag would look like?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Don&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have a Quorum high end fan that blew up its controls. No longer made or supported by Quorum. Has no pullchain; totally controlled by its wall switch.</p>

<p>Any clue what its ckt diag would look like?</p>

<p>Don</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Harvey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2010 23:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am trying to replace a capacitor in a Hunter Original that is around 25 years old. The original “fixer” apparently removed the capacitor without marking the wires and decided he couldn’t fix it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have called Hunter Tech support, but they are unable to help me. The model of the fan is 25750. Hunter is telling me it was made in 2007, but I know it’s much older than that. The lady that owns it says she bought the fan in the mid 80&#039;s. She found the owner&#039;s manual and is dated 1985.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It has one capacitor with 3 wires (2 white, 1 black). The fan is a 3-speed, reversible fan with a light kit. I am trying to find someone who can tell me how to wire the capacitor so I can get this fan and light working again.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am trying to replace a capacitor in a Hunter Original that is around 25 years old. The original “fixer” apparently removed the capacitor without marking the wires and decided he couldn’t fix it.</p>

<p>I have called Hunter Tech support, but they are unable to help me. The model of the fan is 25750. Hunter is telling me it was made in 2007, but I know it’s much older than that. The lady that owns it says she bought the fan in the mid 80&#8217;s. She found the owner&#8217;s manual and is dated 1985.</p>

<p>It has one capacitor with 3 wires (2 white, 1 black). The fan is a 3-speed, reversible fan with a light kit. I am trying to find someone who can tell me how to wire the capacitor so I can get this fan and light working again.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 06:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Where does the off-white/light gray wire from the motor winding connect? Which wire does it conect to?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where does the off-white/light gray wire from the motor winding connect? Which wire does it conect to?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 07:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Most fans have a sticker on them that names the manufacturer, and gives an 800 number.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you call the number (customer service) and give them the model number of your fan, they will very likely send you a capacitor for free.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most fans have a sticker on them that names the manufacturer, and gives an 800 number.</p>

<p>If you call the number (customer service) and give them the model number of your fan, they will very likely send you a capacitor for free.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 23:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;My fan was giving off an odor at one of the speeds. Using this site and a few others, I got it apart pretty easily. The old capacitor showed no bulges or damage, but I still think it was failing. The new capacitor works great.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I had similar issues with my fan and found some help here and at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.squidoo.com/installing-ceiling-fan&quot;&gt;Installing ceiling fan&lt;/a&gt; squido page.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks for helping out&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My fan was giving off an odor at one of the speeds. Using this site and a few others, I got it apart pretty easily. The old capacitor showed no bulges or damage, but I still think it was failing. The new capacitor works great.&#8221;</p>

<p>I had similar issues with my fan and found some help here and at <a href="http://www.squidoo.com/installing-ceiling-fan">Installing ceiling fan</a> squido page.</p>

<p>Thanks for helping out</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ken L. Klaser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken L. Klaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 03:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If you feel like crying, it may be a signal of being overwhelmed. Fixing these electrical systems isn&#039;t for everyone.  A time-benefit analysis given such a feeling would probably say take it to a shop for repair or replacement, if you can afford to do so.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For some folks, and I include myself, I reckon the puzzle intrigues.  At first it&#039;s a steep learning curve, the time commitment is significant, unless you already have existing skills in related areas (such as already knowing how to use a volt-ohm meter to perform continuity and resistance tests [also measure voltages and currents] and a general idea of the differences in AC vs DC).  These are kind of ubiquitous meters, useful in a lot of areas where basic electrical measurements need to be made, and low-end or bargain-basement models can be obtained today for about $5 + shipping.  One would allow you to trace the wires that you&#039;re worried may be disconnected without disassembling the unit further, but if you don&#039;t have such a meter and have never used one, it could seem overwhelming to understand how to do so, or even how to go about doing so by reading the schematic.  There&#039;s the additional problem that the generic schematics are only a rough guide, meaning that while tracing the wires you would probably want to note any variances from the generic schematics and record that into a more specific schematic for your particular fan, unfortunately, then an evaluation could be required to discern a broken wire vs a design difference, my guess is this could be considered an even higher level skill set.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Your words about crying made me recall a psychology 101 (or maybe a 200-series class) professor who claimed that crying was a healthy thing to do.  I doubt if it will mysteriously help directly with the broken fan, but if you feel like crying, by all means, do so.  I should add, don&#039;t forget to laugh about it later!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Good luck!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you feel like crying, it may be a signal of being overwhelmed. Fixing these electrical systems isn&#8217;t for everyone.  A time-benefit analysis given such a feeling would probably say take it to a shop for repair or replacement, if you can afford to do so.</p>

<p>For some folks, and I include myself, I reckon the puzzle intrigues.  At first it&#8217;s a steep learning curve, the time commitment is significant, unless you already have existing skills in related areas (such as already knowing how to use a volt-ohm meter to perform continuity and resistance tests [also measure voltages and currents] and a general idea of the differences in AC vs DC).  These are kind of ubiquitous meters, useful in a lot of areas where basic electrical measurements need to be made, and low-end or bargain-basement models can be obtained today for about $5 + shipping.  One would allow you to trace the wires that you&#8217;re worried may be disconnected without disassembling the unit further, but if you don&#8217;t have such a meter and have never used one, it could seem overwhelming to understand how to do so, or even how to go about doing so by reading the schematic.  There&#8217;s the additional problem that the generic schematics are only a rough guide, meaning that while tracing the wires you would probably want to note any variances from the generic schematics and record that into a more specific schematic for your particular fan, unfortunately, then an evaluation could be required to discern a broken wire vs a design difference, my guess is this could be considered an even higher level skill set.</p>

<p>Your words about crying made me recall a psychology 101 (or maybe a 200-series class) professor who claimed that crying was a healthy thing to do.  I doubt if it will mysteriously help directly with the broken fan, but if you feel like crying, by all means, do so.  I should add, don&#8217;t forget to laugh about it later!</p>

<p>Good luck!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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