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	<title>Comments on: Thoughts on Trackbacks</title>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://kenklaser.gaiastream.com/2005/04/25/some-thoughts-on-trackbacks/comment-page-1/#comment-2094</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 20:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Adam, it&#039;s been a long time since your comment. I&#039;ve been learning something that seems relevant to this (now older) discussion.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In recent months, it appears that a number of bloggers will not publish a trackback even though it appears that it was received.  This isn&#039;t happening with all bloggers, of course, but your point about mutuality of linking seems to be ignored more and more.  It seems there are some non-newbie bloggers who enjoy having an incoming link, but who refuse to allow an outgoing link.  This then breaks pointing to similar or related content.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As my post above stated, there are some bloggers who don&#039;t have trackbacks active, but if they do have trackback links visible, one would tend to believe they&#039;re visible specifically for trackbacking by other bloggers. If the posting by a trackback requester follows the custom of &quot;so and so said:&quot; followed by a blockquote, and then offering further commentary on that blockquote, why then wouldn&#039;t those trackback receivers publish them when they get one that isn&#039;t from a spam source?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Why this is increasingly occurring is curious.  Perhaps it is fallout from the spam problem, poor spam tools, perhaps it is something else.  One blogger that I queried claimed their server never received it, yet, if that was the case, then the sending blog&#039;s software would not have indicated a good trackback in administration or the backend user&#039;s control panel. I believe the receiving server sends a &quot;1&quot; if it received the trackback.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Since it seems to be occurring with non-newbie bloggers, then perhaps it is a phenomenon of a maturing tool and its related use.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Adam, it&#8217;s been a long time since your comment. I&#8217;ve been learning something that seems relevant to this (now older) discussion.</p>

<p>In recent months, it appears that a number of bloggers will not publish a trackback even though it appears that it was received.  This isn&#8217;t happening with all bloggers, of course, but your point about mutuality of linking seems to be ignored more and more.  It seems there are some non-newbie bloggers who enjoy having an incoming link, but who refuse to allow an outgoing link.  This then breaks pointing to similar or related content.</p>

<p>As my post above stated, there are some bloggers who don&#8217;t have trackbacks active, but if they do have trackback links visible, one would tend to believe they&#8217;re visible specifically for trackbacking by other bloggers. If the posting by a trackback requester follows the custom of &#8220;so and so said:&#8221; followed by a blockquote, and then offering further commentary on that blockquote, why then wouldn&#8217;t those trackback receivers publish them when they get one that isn&#8217;t from a spam source?</p>

<p>Why this is increasingly occurring is curious.  Perhaps it is fallout from the spam problem, poor spam tools, perhaps it is something else.  One blogger that I queried claimed their server never received it, yet, if that was the case, then the sending blog&#8217;s software would not have indicated a good trackback in administration or the backend user&#8217;s control panel. I believe the receiving server sends a &#8220;1&#8243; if it received the trackback.</p>

<p>Since it seems to be occurring with non-newbie bloggers, then perhaps it is a phenomenon of a maturing tool and its related use.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Adam Shostack</title>
		<link>http://kenklaser.gaiastream.com/2005/04/25/some-thoughts-on-trackbacks/comment-page-1/#comment-190</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Shostack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2005 02:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was thinking less of temporality than direct reference.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If I write &quot;Ken Klaser wrote X...&quot; then a TB is appropriate.  If I write &quot;[Update: Ken Klaser wrote X&quot;], then I think a TB is appropriate.  To me the core is mutuality of linking; if you don&#039;t link to me, but want my blog to link to you, that annoys me.  Is that clearer?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Adam&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking less of temporality than direct reference.</p>

<p>If I write &#8220;Ken Klaser wrote X&#8230;&#8221; then a TB is appropriate.  If I write &#8220;[Update: Ken Klaser wrote X"], then I think a TB is appropriate.  To me the core is mutuality of linking; if you don&#8217;t link to me, but want my blog to link to you, that annoys me.  Is that clearer?</p>

<p>Adam</p>]]></content:encoded>
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